资本主义:一个爱情故事

记录片美国2009

主演:William Black,吉米·卡特,Elijah Cummings,Marcus Haupt,Baron Hill,马西·卡普图尔,约翰·麦凯恩,迈克尔·摩尔,Stephen Moore,莎拉·佩林,罗纳德·里根,富兰克林·德拉诺·罗斯福,伯尼·桑德斯,阿诺·施瓦辛格,华莱士·肖恩,切斯利·舒伦伯格,伊丽莎白·沃伦,Glenn Beck,乔·拜登,迈克·布隆伯格,John Boehner,Stephen G. Breyer,汤姆·布罗考,乔治·W· 布什,Jack Cafferty,迪克·切尼,比尔·

导演:迈克尔·摩尔

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详细剧情

  按照资本主义的理想化定义,在该社会体制下生活的人民可以自由自在的选择工作,并获得相应的报酬。但现实究竟如何?2008年金融风暴席卷全球之际,美国的土地上无数人因为丧失赎回权而被银行赶出家园;有的商人则与司法系统勾结兴建感化院,通过监禁犯错的少年大殓其财;还有的企业偷偷为员工投保,并待其死后赚其巨额赔偿金;而当成千上万的工人失业之际,华尔街的银行则向政府请求高达7000亿美元的救济金,这笔钱的最终走向却无人得知。纪录片导演迈克·摩尔(Michael Moore)再次拿起摄像机,试图揭穿政客和商人剥削民众、暴敛钱财的真实嘴脸……  本片荣获2009年威尼斯电影节小金狮奖。

 长篇影评

 1 ) 我拒绝留下,我不要离开

我想我在精神上某处应该是上升了一个层次,如果我开始为了记录片而不是剧情片流眼泪的话。

只是,作为一个不跟经济专业沾边的局外人,一个流离在美国的异乡人,为了被腐蚀的美国梦大放悲歌,难免有些自作多情。我怀着这样又激动又惭愧的情绪无处抒发,因为我知道,无论是已看过的还是将要看的,说它好还是说它坏的,很少再会有人跟我有一样的感触了。

五星给Michigan。

影片一开始,他说我生在Flint, Michigan, GM的总部所在地。这个时候我身在Dearborn, Michigan, Ford的总部所在地。我在这里三年了,三年间我无数次地听人说,不要去东边的底特律啊,那是美国最乱的一个城市;也不要去北边的Flint啊,那是美国第二乱的城市。我们是异乡人嘛,听到这些话的时候只需要乖乖地做出惊恐的表情,而不用体会他们背后的悲凉。我也无数次听人说,以前这里如何是美国的工业重镇、经济支柱,福特大楼如何风光,底特律大街上人潮熙攘。异乡人,我们同样只需要叹息一声“来的不是时候”,所有属于他们的悲哀、痛惜就由他们去吧。

可是影片里的michigan看得我心痛了。那些废弃的工地,破旧的遗址,那些被赶出家门的大胖子工人看得我心痛了。我从来不知道长成一个大胖子,笨重地搬着家具,放火烧掉,然后低低地骂着人,有这样让人心痛的力量。

给Michael Moore。

都说他是主观的纪录片导演。可我热爱他固执的主观。啊,他也是一个大胖子,在美国随处可见的那一种,拥有撼动人心的力量。我喜欢他的叙事方式,怎么严肃也遮掩不住的幽默,对经典轻轻的致敬和重重的玩弄。至于他身上那些刺眼的永恒存在的激进,大抵是真的勇士才能做得出的。作为旁白的声音也很好听,胖子都有好听的声音。

在底特律中心的大楼下,他被警卫拦住,他说我是Michael Moore,我拍了这么多年的电影还从来没有说我哪里不能进;他拖着他肥胖的身躯在华尔街拉上犯罪现场的拦幅,拿着大喇叭喊你们都是罪犯。我不禁在想中国的名导们都在做什么。嗯我听说了,他们在拍纯爱文艺片和所谓灾难伦理片。意义在哪里?力量在哪里?我们不需要更多温情了啊。

给Blockbuster。

有一件伤心的巧事。我家电影一直是在Blockbuster租的,这部也不例外。我租下这部不久,就突然有人告诉我Blockbuster,美国最大最老资格的影片出租公司,申请破产保护了。我对破产的Lehman Brothers没有过什么感情,对GM也没有太多感情。在金融危机这么久以后,Blockbuster成了我最不忍卒读的一个。我常去那里租电影,因为他们有很多家门店遍布周围,更因为他们有异常热心的店员,总是忙不迭地过来跟我们介绍电影,比冷冰冰的寄来寄去的Netflix好很多。遇到的每一个人都看起来那么乐观,那么健谈,啊,还有,喜欢Denzel Washington和Leonardo DiCaprio,每个人都是。我总想,他们是因为经常看电影才这么心情舒畅呢,还是心情足够舒畅了才被招来做店员?

这件事情以后,我似乎不敢再去那里了。我怕看到任何忧伤的面孔,或是紧闭的门,或是不再出现的人。我只有把看过的电影默默寄回去,再等着下一部默默寄来。

给所有拒绝留下又不要离开的人。

影片最后他说,I refuse to live in a country like this - and I'm not leaving. 我不要在这样一个国家生活,可我不会离开的。拒绝留下又不要离开,这是每个深爱这片土地的人的困境。我看到更多更多的人,愤怒着,叫嚣着,辱骂着,却更安心地留着。

给你们。

 2 ) Carpe Diem

The other day I was watching Real Time. As usual, Bill and his panel - Arianna Huffington and Andrew Sorkin in this case - talked about how the Corporate America, especially those financial elites, rip off the hard-working middle class people and get away with it with tons of taxpayers' money in their pockets. As the heat mounted, it is, of course, inevitable to raise doubts about and criticize the existing system. Then, all of sudden, I was shocked, and partly amused, by how these spouts resemble what we have been preached throughout our education. Greed, exploitation, and ultimately the populist revolt. This type of rhetoric sounds no strange to us; for this is what we are expected, if not ordered, to believe in. And yet, to the American people, particularly the younger generation, it sounds just as exotic and remote as a fashionable historic curiosity.

There are more of these moments to find in Michael Moore's documentary, Capitalism: A Love Story. Jimmy Carter's presidential statement that "we are at a turning point in our history" in that "human identity is no longer defined by what one does, but by what one owns" called for the very same thing the Eight Honors and Eight Disgraces is intended to. The only difference here is that one has perished amid the laissez faire spree triggered by the president's successor, while another is ongoing in an emerging superpower experiencing an astounding economic growth and faced with increasingly polarized distribution.

Carter also rightly decried that "too many of us now tend to worship self-indulgence and consumption". Ironically enough, this is exactly where Ronald Reagan thrived. By cutting taxes by a enormous margin, by packing those ideas that Carter hated and warned against into the doctrine of capitalism and the almighty power of the free market, the Republican president created a robust consumption-driven economy and garnered tremendous popularity. Historically, this was also a significant period of what Walter R. Mead, an advisor to Henry Kissinger, described as the breakdown of the blue model. Union power declined, competition intensified - just as Michael Moore lamented in the film, it was not an easy time for everybody. However, the cosmetic served well. With new policies well implemented, economic index responded with great numbers. So did the stock market, so did the financial sector; and so people say of the economy and the president's legacy. Indeed, it was the best of times, it was the worst of times.

But this does not solve the moral problems incurred by the ever greater gap between the wealthy and the poor. In an electoral democracy, for a policy, or more precisely -- an ideology to become legitimate it has to promote the core ideas that have been deeply rooted in this nation ever since its foundation - well known as the "American dream" - which, in its simplest form, requires two most basic elements: freedom and equal opportunities. Of course, it is no difficulty to claim freedom in a capitalism for it is already a "free market", but the concept of "equal opportunities" is not an easy case. How could everyone be equal in a system in which more capital could be gained out of capital itself? How is deregulation supposed to promote equality when the ones with more wealth is granted with access to more influence, and hence even more wealth? This is where the economists, along with their terrifying-sounding jargons, weighed in. Drawing on one after another premises that are too good - and too simple - to be true, they derived elegant models functioning perfectly in equilibriums yet inherently inconsistent with reality. But politicians, as they always do, conveniently neglected those flaws in nature and with the help of speechwriters blended the pretty conclusions into their exciting orations. The "invisible hand", what a tempting yet handy idea - it's like finding the key to the ultimate mystery of the universe - sparing us the tedious thoughts of how our society and economy really work, develop, and interact with fast changing circumstances. Capitalism and the free market, as the Cold War ended in the collapse of the Soviet Union, soon earned their unchallengeable status in the realm of economic expertise. This, I firmly believe, is the ugly but real side of the truth: people blindly come to believe in those slogan-like theories not because of prudence, but because of laziness; for it is the one of the most common human nature of us to see what we want to see.

But, how about the immoral and unchristlike worship of "self-indulgence and consumption"? It indeed sounds like a righteous warning, doesn't it? Let me put this in relatively vague words for the sake of a bit wit here. When people see and hear of the media promotions of smoking elaborately plotted and sponsored by big evil tobacco companies, as depicted in Hollywood products, in either an upbraiding or a nostalgic way, they easily buy it, assuming that's what surely is bound to happen, as though the condescending liberal media elites just reclaimed their integrity out of blue. Nonetheless, contradictory to the common ground that government and politicians are evil, hypocritical, or, at best, incompetent, when it comes to massive political propaganda people easily get dismissive, disdainfully calling them conspiracies. Anyway, were those speculations to have been true, you have got to give applause to the gentlemen behind the curtain, for they can somehow manage to manipulate people to do and believe in things that are obviously against their own interests. It is truly a tour de force, works like magic.

Back to the film, and the ideology talk partly thanks to its title. It is amazing how frequently and strongly Michael Moore stress the term "socialism". And not in a Cold-War-minded way, but in a progressive and advocating way. So advocating that it proclaims socialism is the unfulfilled dream of FDR. So, how does the landscape really looks like in the US? Is it as biased as either side insists? Trying to answer that question, another popular liberal president, Jed Bartlet, would probably say, "Give me numbers." Fair enough. Let's take a look at them:

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This poll was conducted earlier this year. It shows that, significantly, though 58% of Americans still maintain a negative image of socialism, among Democrats and leaner a majority of people share a positive one, and that majority grows even bigger when it comes to liberals, topping the "supermajority" threshold at 61%.

Also underlined in the film is Barack Obama's ascendency in polls during the '08 presidential election, which Michael Moore arbitrarily attributed to the underlying socialism in his rhetoric and agenda. It is easy to commit the mistake of post hoc ergo propter hoc, but the exhilarated crowd was real and hard. Young people, with their compassion and idealism yet to fade, are known to be the main components of the liberal base. This hypothetical electoral map below demonstrates that fact convincingly well:

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These results altogether illustrate a sharp contrast with that across the Pacific, where the pro-capitalism outrage amid the young is burgeoning seemingly as fast as the economic growth. The bottom line is that it is widely acknowledged that China's economy and growth model are in fact ill and flawed, but is capitalism the solution to all our conundrums? I am too often astounded by the extend to which some of our professors and pundits, who are supposed to think and analyze in a much more comprehensive way, appear so naive as to blame many problems on the markets not being open, free, and in essence capitalist enough. The contemporary history of the US has already showed the idealistic promises of capitalism that everyone shares an equal opportunity to work his way into the upper class are nothing but a fantasy; in reality, it is never in its purest form but other derivatives, namely, crony capitalism. Which does little good to the society as a whole but quite the opposite, creating even more inequality in the long run. In an economy that is strong and hence resilient to tentative turbulences so long as the marginal well-being stays positive, it might take decades for a bubble to burst. Nevertheless, in an over populated nation governed by a young regime dealing with various inherent social tensions, it could lead to catastrophe.

So, what does all this imply? Should we just entirely reject the Western philosophies as merely historical blunders? Of course not. To me the very point here is that we are bestowed - in an ironic way - with this dual perspective on the nature of human society, in terms of how social progressivism driven by different values eventually converge at promoting human equality and how dogmatism could be manipulated to impede that momentum and ultimately undermine our integrity. For a nation in the face of a seemingly unstainable economy, for a people shadowed by a wobbling ethical system, this is an utterly important issue.

 3 ) 我知道迈克尔摩尔根不不是也不想是一个电影人了

看看那个电影中罗斯福说的话,那些嘲笑摩尔的人根本没看懂的是什么?!可耻!!
摩尔是真正的诗人,真正的艺术家。
我现在理解那些浴血奋战的2战美国士兵的精神动力了,他们保卫的是用国家军队保卫他们对抗保护资本家的警察和打手的美国!

 4 ) 笔记

秃鹰,低价购买房产,在别人的不幸上牟利。

盈利动机。

里根时期,生产力大幅提升但是工人工资没涨,工人阶层还被鼓励借贷(家庭借贷几乎与GDP相等)、个人破产激增、犯罪率上升等,最富裕的美国人税率降低了一半。

通用公司GM破产

日本和德国:努力保证即便是保守党当选,也不会破坏他们的中产阶层。

布什:资本主义让人自由选择,公正和尊严

资本主义战胜了自由:受贿法官提高了定罪率(不公正定罪),将稍有过失的儿童送入青少年盈利机构(儿童服务中心),并且关押时间比被判的时间延长。

萨利机长收入降了四成,退休金被终止。飞行员的收入微薄,欠债。航空公司逐年降低飞行员工资,后者不得不靠打临工生活——薪水低、工作强度大,易出事故。

Dead Peasants insurance:银行为员工健康而秘密投保,保险受益人是银行——道德问题:从员工死亡得益。美国银行、梅林,沃尔玛…这些蓝筹股都涉嫌这种类型的投保。去世的员工越年轻公司获赔越多,因为他们的预期寿命更长,且女性的预期寿命比男性更长——年轻女性。而家人则承担全额医疗和丧礼费用。

资本主义与共同利益、同情心、宗教信仰相悖。

美国不再是Democracy而是Plutonomy(1%的富人比剩余95%的人有钱)富人成了国家新的管理层,唯一形成威胁的就是穷人的投票权,但是穷人幻想有朝一日成为富人(享受扩大贫富差距的利益)因此容忍这一点——富人拒绝共享财富。背离了宪法的初衷。

工作场所的公平,所有工人都是管理层(投票)。CEO和普通工人获得的利润一样,大大提高了生产率。

萨尔克医生,将疫苗专利权奉献给公众;如今最好的人才在金融业(需要20年偿还学生贷款)

Alan Greenspan

次贷

欠贷者在被赶出家门前,如果清理得干净,房主会收到一千美元。而对于位高权重者,可以减免他们的利息,免除费用,免除书面文件(FOA:friends of Angelo),其中许多人管理着国家的金融。

08年经济危机,恰好在大选前2个月(时机可疑)。

Robert Rubin美国前财长,在仁时修改法案允许商业银行进入如投资银行业和外国保险的新领域,他卸任后在花旗银行拿高薪就职。

Larry Summers 美国前财长,通过做顾问和发表演讲赚钱,现身一次十万;为对冲基金做顾问赚了520万。

Tim Geithner(《恐慌:2008金融危机背后不为人知的故事》被采访)领导了不少摧毁经济的机构。

布什政府相当于“高盛政府”,充斥了许多高盛前员工(包括Hank Paulson),正如克林顿政府。用纳税人的钱拯救高盛及其他金融机构。利用恐惧(大萧条的威胁),达到目的。第一次议案投票结果是不通过,但是民主党人与共和党人达成协议,致使国会改变。(“情报战”)

奥巴马政府,高盛称为奥巴马第一私人赞助者(一百万)。他的竞争者越说奥巴马是社会主义,后者民调越领先。

弗林特静坐(通用公司),罗斯福总统第二权利法案未通过(离世)。

导演:民主应当取代资本主义。

 5 ) 老麦的左愤

Michael Moore还是麦氏的风格。看过片子,上豆瓣看了看评论,发言者寥寥,好在评分不错。

相比三枪和花木兰这样的片子,这部片子很难触动豆油们的萌点。毕竟来豆瓣论左右,哇,太意识形态,也太不 douban-stylish 了。

有人说,这是美国人的事情,老美觉醒了。有人说,靠,摩尔又在拍这种“伪纪录片”了,太意识形态。还有人干脆直接攻击说,哼,就是一左派嘛!没人爱看老愤青,好在是美国的;没人喜欢偏激,好在我们都知道摩尔拍的是“伪纪录片”。

我不知道讨论一种名为“资本主义”的社会建构和价值体系,有什么客观的方式?也不知道,在如今的中国,左派已经变成什么又丑又土又愚蠢的“妖魔”。好歹这里还有一个人敢于在美国这个谈社会主义色变的话语氛围中批评并探讨另一种可能性,好歹这是一个真的值得更多人去关注和探讨的“未来该如何”的真问题。

老麦知道,资本主义作为一种经济制度与民主作为一种政治制度与程序规范不是一码事儿,甚至美国和资本主义也曾经不是一码事儿。意识形态中无所不能的自由市场经济在今天的世界早已名存实亡。

但在中国,曾经是另一种更美好社会试验田的土地,很多人已经不知道这个常识了。所以,我们都相信,今日的美国是我们的better Golden day。

老麦是不太可能超出美国思维了,所以他能找到的正面例子是欧洲和日本,反面例子是苏联和mao中国。

正如,我们也不太能超出我们的中国思维一样,所以我们能找到的正面例子是美国,而反面例子,呃,大概就是还不够“美国”的中国吧!

想起一句话戴锦华老师的一句话,没有一笔历史遗产不是债务,也没有一部历史债务不是遗产。在历史的债务与遗产面前,我们不怕伪纪录片,怕的是连问题都不再能触达的虚无。

ps 有时候豆瓣很烦,很娘娘腔





 6 ) 缺了阴谋论,老麦就玩不转了

这片子跟华氏911一比,差了不止3条街。缺了阴谋论,看上去就很乏味,以至于后半段简直令人昏昏欲睡。对资本主义的血泪控诉,就这点桥段,都不好意思写进我国的政治教材啊(话说按今天的眼光看,80年代的中学政治教科书很像另类科幻,什么牛奶倒大海,什么证交所多过米店,竟然都一一应验了)。说实话,我真的很想推荐老麦看一看我国80年代的中学政治教科书,虽然分析我国的事情不怎么靠谱,但是找资本主义的茬,那还是相当地一针见血啊。

其实华尔街,多好的阴谋论题材啊,但看到老麦对函数的导数满头黑线,就知道这不是他可以驾驭的了(不如请宋鸿兵来当顾问)?于是剩下的就只有感情宣泄了;美国本来是很好的,都是布什/鲍尔森良心让狗吃了,只要信天主信民主(党)以及巴马,于是乎就万事大吉了。红脖子智商固然低,但也没有这么好忽悠的吧。而且话说巴马上台已经两年了,那下次再怎么拍呢?看情形是要搞”党内出了佩洛西这样的走资派“之类的桥段了。

既然对问题没有深入的分析,老麦开出的药方也是可笑的。”罗斯福多活几年就好了“,算是解决方案?要知道罗斯福的social security现在都快破产了唉。人人有工作,人人有房子住,人人有医疗,哪个不需要花钱的啊?当然罗斯福有可能办得到,您老自己在开头就说了,那是因为欧洲日本都被还原成2D了嘛。

说老实话,搞福利国家北欧可以,日本可以,但是美国不可以,因为美国是老大,天塌下来也只能硬顶着,养懒人的下场就是老大地位不保,这个是一点办法都没有的事情。

喂喂,最后摇滚版的ED是虾米意思啊?欺负美宣部的同志们没有听过国际歌是吧?伟大导师教导我们,革命不是请客吃饭,自发的,盲目的,没有xx党领导的,那个啥啥啥,终归是要失败的。哼着小曲就想改天换日,那是门也没有的。现如今只有我国纪念的51劳动节和38妇女节,想当初都是芝加哥工人的滚滚人头啊。

 短评

麦胖果然是红色阵营派到西方的奸细,他老拍一些《新闻联播》最爱放的东西——即美国人民都生活在水深火热之中

9分钟前
  • shawnj
  • 力荐

迈克摩尔是美国艾未未,除了他喜欢编造谎言之外,更大的区别还在于他生在了一个值得爱的国家。在我们这个无偿献血的地方,没有爱情故事,只有悲伤和愤怒。

11分钟前
  • 草威
  • 还行

这片子不是给平头百姓看的。

15分钟前
  • 小子
  • 力荐

哪种主义都不是百忧解

16分钟前
  • 皮皮鲁西西
  • 还行

一直挺喜欢Michael Moore讽刺的调调,这位老喜欢找茬的美国佬,应该觉得批评政府也是爱国的一种表现吧。

19分钟前
  • 推荐

不管摩尔政治观点怎么样有无漏洞,当年如此支持奥巴马有没有被打脸,“独立党派”桑德斯现在变民主党是否尴尬等,他确实是个把娱乐和叙述结合得非常好的导演,适当插入各种表情包一样的段落令人怀疑他是否经常在油管看恶搞视频😂,事情讲清楚了,也并不卖惨或过度煽动。当然一部电影肯定是不够的

20分钟前
  • 米粒
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还以为有多谴责,结果也只是批判一下前几任政府,寄希望于奥巴马。我几乎要认为这是奥巴马的政治宣传片了。另:房屋被没收,难道就没有平民过度透支的恶习起作用?我看不见得。Pussy!纪录片带了政治目的,就成了一坨烂货。

25分钟前
  • 光年‖影视歌三栖民工
  • 较差

美国的可怕之处在于总有人能提出反对意见, 在良性循环中找到潜在的危险. 或许 Michael Moore 有点哗众取宠不招人喜欢. 反思国内, 我们的工会我们的权利在哪里?

27分钟前
  • SilentTyler
  • 力荐

摩尔是我见过当今最有社会洞见的导演,虽然很多地方有心无力,甚至方向偏颇,但仍然具有很大的社会意义,因为摸索是一个过程,试想如果全世界人民都能够清醒的辩证的去思考这个世界的运行,那么人类才会迅速的发展,苦难将会减少,社会合规律性不可违背,但历史任务需要做的就是调动人民的主观能动性…

29分钟前
  • iceman
  • 力荐

plutonomy,资本主义能让你无所不能,你想为太阳申请专利吗。。把民主和资本主义对立是有问题的。。。麦克默你敢再激进点么

31分钟前
  • 琧婯
  • 推荐

每次看完迈克摩尔的电影,想到的第一句话总是“中国人民此刻内牛满面”

35分钟前
  • 影熟人
  • 还行

1、迈克·摩尔做小题目,比如911,或者医保问题,得心应手,这个题目太大,他自己也不明白或者是装糊涂,着实驾驭不了。2、前两部还好,这一部里摩尔的“社会行动”/个人秀看起来着实地臭傻逼。3、没解决的核心问题在于,为什么富人富穷人穷,以及片中现象如何形成,没有解释,只有仇富和煽动

37分钟前
  • 胤祥
  • 还行

摩尔的人道主义关怀 - 区分capitalism & democracy. 资本主义是邪恶的, 只有民主是好的. 但是, 没有资本主义做基础的民主究竟是真正的民主吗? 纯粹的民主根底上只能是理想. 太多国家假民主却真贫穷. 效率与公平本身就是极难达成的平衡......

42分钟前
  • vanessa
  • 力荐

没有在一个国家的理想与现实节节滑坡的惨象前一蹶不振,保持了积极的社会变革基调,仅就这一点便向Michael Moore致以崇高的敬意。不足是对解决问题的方法有所模糊,依然使用了“民主”这个模糊的概念。其中对Co-op的刻画极有启发,可继续展开。

43分钟前
  • 艾小柯
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虽然我是个右派,但麦克摩尔这个大胖子总是能让我变得感性起来。

45分钟前
  • Minjie
  • 推荐

胖子的表情!!

50分钟前
  • 后端开发鸭先知
  • 推荐

an insane casino

52分钟前
  • 贾小宁
  • 力荐

片尾曲是摇滚版《国际歌》,观众起立鼓掌。估计中国人不会喜欢,因为他们爱的并不是美国,而是资本主义;Michael Moore爱的是美国,不是资本主义。

56分钟前
  • 小白小白不要慌
  • 推荐

利用剪辑灌输自己观点,这一点上,他做的很好

57分钟前
  • 扭腰客
  • 推荐

大坏胖子著名搅屎棍Michael.Moore再次袭来!

58分钟前
  • 蚂蚁没问题
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